| Bastien Montagne (mont29) |
| Jefferson Rausseo (jefrau) | |
| Jul 14 2016, 1:24 AM |
| Bastien Montagne (mont29) |
| Danni Coy (danni) |
| Jefferson Rausseo (jefrau) |
System Information
GNU/Linux Manjaro 64bits
Nvidia 8600 GT
Blender Version
Broken: 2.77 91bda21
Worked: 2.77a Official Build
Short description of error
If I try to use the Keyboard Shortcuts "]" (select: "After Current Frames") in Dope Sheet Editor or Graph Editor it does not work, but the Keyboard Shortcuts "[" (select: "Before Current Frames") is fine.
Exact steps for others to reproduce the error
| rB Blender | |||
| rB16cb9391634d Fix T48911: Fix T48847: Issues with some shortcuts on non-US latin keyboards… | |||
I don’t understand what the two screenshots are for here?
Anyway, please give us your keyboard layout, that kind of shortcut only works fine with US qwerty keyboard iirc. At least here on my french keyboard, ] works OK but [, which is same key as 5, is eaten/replaced by 5 (that’s a 'hack' to make layer switching work with all keyboard layouts). As a rule of thumb, any shortcut which needs a modifier key (shift or alt-gr) on a given layout is likely to not work, Blender is designed by default for English QWERTY layout.
Not aware of a Generic 105-Key INTL layout… please make a screenshot of your keybaord's layout.
Anyway, this shall not have anything to do with blender configuration… Can you try to enable event debugging (--debug-events commandline option) and attach here as text file what's printed in console when you hit [ and ] ?
Run with --debug-evets:
In Blender 2.77a Official Build:
I press "Alt Gr + [" -> wm_handlers_do_intern: handled! 'ACTION_OT_select_leftright'
I press "Alt Gr + ]" -> wm_handlers_do_intern: handled! 'ACTION_OT_select_leftright'
In Blender 2.77 compile 91bda21:
I press "Alt Gr + [" -> wm_handlers_do_intern: handled! 'ACTION_OT_select_leftright'
I press "Alt Gr + ]" -> Nothing happens.
You should get more than that with --debug-events option, all key events would be printed out in console - would allow us to see what events is actually generated by your 'altgr-]' (my bet would be, it generates a '+' event instead). Please attach here as text file what's printed out by Blender in console when you hit those two keys.
But again, altgr-keys shortcuts are rather fragile and not always working with Blender, that’s known limitation more than a bug.
Text editor is using utf8 value of the event, while shortcuts handling uses its type. As you can see in your logs, type of altgr-] is PLUS, when altgr-[ generates expected LEFT_BRACKET event. This is entirely handled through X11 system, we try to be smart and fallback to ascii value to generate our own Blender event type in case 'keytype' fails, but all in all, it boils down to: altgr-key (or shift-key) combinations are not designed for shortcuts, they may work in some cases, but there is no way for us to guarantee it.
In other words, either you use US keyboard layout with Blender, or accept to not be able to use pre-defined shortcuts using keys not directly accessible on your layout (i.e. without any shift or altgr trick), or define your own shortucts…
On second thoughts, this shall be fixable, and is kind of same issue as T48911… have patch for it, so will merge this report together :)
Commit 16cb9391634dcc50ee674852b80c70ccb5f05c43
Changes the behaviour of blender under X11 for non qwerty layouts in a really significant way.
Previously blender used the hardware keysim so that keys stayed in the same place no matter which keyboard layout is being used after this commit blender looks up the current layout keycode.
In an application like blender which is designed to be used with one hand on the keyboard and the other on a mouse/tablet the physical position of the key is *way* more important than what is printed on it and the current layout is designed to be ergonomic on a qwerty keyboard, the more the layout deviates from qwerty the less ergonomic it gets.
In my case I would be forced to choose between learning a much less ergomic layout from scratch, constantly switching keyboard layouts every time I want to enter text or rebinding practically every key in the application.