Maniphest T54955

Multi-Object Properties Design
Closed, DuplicateDESIGN

Assigned To
William Reynish (billreynish)
Authored By
William Reynish (billreynish)
May 4 2018, 5:18 PM
Tags
  • Code Quest
  • BF Blender: 2.8
  • User Interface
Subscribers
Duarte Farrajota Ramos (duarteframos)
Okavango (Okavango)
Peter Fog (tintwotin)
Sergey Sharybin (sergey)
William Reynish (billreynish)
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Description

in Blender 2.8, we want to make it easy to adjust values on more than one object.

This is how we've decided to solve it:

When users only have a single object selected, editing items in the Properties Editor looks normal:

But when more than one object is selected, and the user edits a value, we display an orange selection box around it, to indicate that the change will apply to all selected items, like so:


When the user presses Return, it sets the value on all selected objects.

We also want to support relative changes. We do this by using an operator symbol, and then the relative change, like so:

Note: We've decided to use the § symbol instead of =

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Event Timeline

William Reynish (billreynish) lowered the priority of this task from 90 to Normal.May 4 2018, 5:18 PM
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Dalai Felinto (dfelinto) moved this task from Reviewing to Done on the Code Quest board.May 7 2018, 9:19 AM
Dalai Felinto (dfelinto) changed the task status from Unknown Status to Resolved.May 7 2018, 9:24 AM
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Okavango (Okavango) added a subscriber: Okavango (Okavango).EditedMay 7 2018, 12:46 PM

Very important feature, been missing it since forever, one of the first things i noticed missing when beginning with Blender. Triples the workflow efficiency.

@William Reynish (billreynish) If you have 5 minutes to spare, read the PDF i attached, a page and a half in length. It is a small comment i gave to the author of the Blender Archipack addon, regarding possible multi - element property editing capabilities. I described the multi element property panel in CAD apps which i know and work with on daily basis. If you get a copy of QCAD application (GPL licensed) on one of your machines, you can see the it in action. The pdf describes the basic logic behind it, perhaps you can use in for inspiration. CAD apps are the best at this, no doubt.

Basic introduction of the panel, not showing the best feature - dealing with multi category element selection. Speed up x 2 - the video is slow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHLqtZ3bGgo

Okavango (Okavango) added a comment.EditedMay 7 2018, 1:05 PM

P.S. - What i mean you could try to expand multi element editing to whole property editor. Show only tabs (object / mesh / modifiers...) that are common for selection and on them only common values, according to selection. A selection filter drop down on the top for expanding the list of editable values - check the PDF...

P.S.P.S. - Industry standard for relative marker is @. Perhaps you can find some similar marker, because in my keyboard layout i can't find the 'double S' symbol. Perhaps you could try & or # or sth like that...

William Reynish (billreynish) added a comment.May 7 2018, 4:05 PM

Okavango: We cannot do it that way. It would be very very slow, because Blender then has to constantly compare values. If you select 1.000 objects, Blender then needs to check the the values on all those objects and continually compare them. That's likely to be hundreds of thousands of values compared constantly.

The design outlined at the top works around that issue, and can be fast, because it doesn't have to compare hundreds of values for every single object selected.

Okavango (Okavango) added a comment.EditedMay 7 2018, 4:12 PM

Ah ok.
I trust you on this, i don't know the technical side of the implementation.

William Reynish (billreynish) added a comment.May 7 2018, 4:13 PM

:) We may adopt @ though - we already discussed that as a possibility too.

Okavango (Okavango) added a comment.May 7 2018, 4:17 PM

Cool :) Check the intellectual property though. Some big companies use it, although i think some open source do also. Check LibreCAD, QCAD, i believe it is safe.

Duarte Farrajota Ramos (duarteframos) added a comment.May 7 2018, 5:31 PM

Not sure if this fits entirely in this task, but since there seem to be changes in the way input values are treated, Would it be very hard to support ignoring leading zeroes?
Currently if one accidentally types 05 or 003 in a value box it fails to set the property, and the input is ignored and reset to previous value.

William Reynish (billreynish) added a comment.May 7 2018, 6:19 PM

Huh, that would be good to fix, yes. Dalai already fixed the issue where if you pressed backspace to delete the value, nothing would happen. Now it resets the value.

William Reynish (billreynish) changed the task status from Resolved to Unknown Status.Aug 4 2019, 3:59 PM

This needs further design work

Peter Fog (tintwotin) added a subscriber: Peter Fog (tintwotin).Aug 4 2019, 5:48 PM

Maybe the selected value could be a little less than white, so a white box would be visible around the value, when the value is only added to the active element.

Nb. using the orange color for entire selection, would have to be consistent throughout Blender including the Sequencer, which currently doesn't use outline for selection.

William Reynish (billreynish) closed this task as a duplicate of T54987: Implement Multi-Object Properties Editing.Feb 22 2020, 5:13 PM