Maniphest T56853

2.8 crash on F12 then Shift-z
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Brecht Van Lommel (brecht)
Authored By
Peter Kemp (peterejkemp)
Sep 20 2018, 1:12 PM
Tags
  • Platform: Windows
  • BF Blender
  • EEVEE & Viewport
Subscribers
Bastien Montagne (mont29)
Brecht Van Lommel (brecht)
Peter Kemp (peterejkemp)

Description

System Information
Windows 10
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570S CPU @ 3.10GHz
Intel(R) HD Graphics 2500

Blender Version
Broken: 2.80 (sub 22), branch: blender2.8, commit date: 2018-09-20 00:19, hash: 2c30922e2c6,

Short description of error
Blender crashes on F12 then Shift-z combination

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error
Load default cube
Don't edit, move or anything else
press F12
Switch back to main Blender window
Press Shift-z
#CRASH#

However, it works when you press Shift-z immediately after loading, or you move things in the scene, then F12, then shift-z. It's also working fine on Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700T CPU @ 2.80GHz with Intel(R) HD Graphics 530

Also of note is the error when loading blender:
Win32 Error# (3221692565): The specified OpenGL version and feature set are either invalid or not supported.
This appears for the Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570S CPU @ 3.10GHz Intel(R) HD Graphics 2500 machine AND the Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700T CPU @ 2.80GHz with Intel(R) HD Graphics 530
machine

Related Objects

Mentioned Here
T56855: 2.8 crash on Intel processor
rB2c30922e2c64: Fix spin/rotate gizmo not updating view orientation

Event Timeline

Peter Kemp (peterejkemp) created this task.Sep 20 2018, 1:12 PM
Bastien Montagne (mont29) lowered the priority of this task from 90 to 30.Sep 20 2018, 2:00 PM
Bastien Montagne (mont29) added a subscriber: Bastien Montagne (mont29).

Cannot reproduce so far. What is the render engine you are using?

Peter Kemp (peterejkemp) added a comment.Sep 20 2018, 2:02 PM

It's evee as default. It seems that it might be specific to the older intel CPU/GPU. A newer CPU/GPU doesn't give me this issue

Peter Kemp (peterejkemp) updated the task description.Sep 20 2018, 2:07 PM
Bastien Montagne (mont29) raised the priority of this task from 30 to Normal.Sep 20 2018, 2:17 PM
Bastien Montagne (mont29) edited projects, added BF Blender: 2.8, GPU / Viewport, Eevee, Platform: Windows; removed BF Blender.

This is most certainly the same issue as with T56855 then - 'old' intel GPUs that do not support officially anything past OpenGL 3.1… @flcem summoning you here too, you know whether this is not supported, WIP/known issue, or something else I guess…

Peter Kemp (peterejkemp) added a comment.EditedSep 20 2018, 2:24 PM

I feared that, but at the same time, it _does_ work, just not for super complicated things (what things exactly, I'm trying to find out), and only if you do things in a certain order, as shown above. A few weeks ago nothing was rendering with these chipsets at all

This is very exciting as it means that #b3d101 school students can learn the basics on very old machines! The same machine was able to output this: https://twitter.com/peterejkemp/status/1042742860683063297

Peter Kemp (peterejkemp) added a comment.EditedSep 21 2018, 6:06 PM

Just trying to show that T56853 isn't about memory size, the above steps are with the default cube and produce this:

C:\Users\peter.kemp\Desktop\blender-2.80.0-git.2c30922e2c6-windows64>blender.exe --debug-gpu
Win32 Error# (3221692565): The specified OpenGL version and feature set are either invalid or not supported.
Using KHR_debug extension
GL application marker: Successfully hooked OpenGL debug callback.
Win32 Error# (3221692565): The specified OpenGL version and feature set are either invalid or not supported.
found bundled python: C:\Users\peter.kemp\Desktop\blender-2.80.0-git.2c30922e2c6-windows64\2.80\python
GL API performance: Vertex shader recompiled due to state change.
Win32 Error# (3221692565): The specified OpenGL version and feature set are either invalid or not supported.
Win32 Error# (3221692565): The specified OpenGL version and feature set are either invalid or not supported.
Error : EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION
Address : 0x00007FFF6A1E6C81
Module : C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ig7icd64.dll

Several of the Win32 Error# (3221692565): The specified OpenGL version and feature set are either invalid or not supported. have been dropped for readability.
Much more complex scenes do render (e.g. the spaceship)

Brecht Van Lommel (brecht) edited projects, added BF Blender; removed BF Blender: 2.8.Dec 11 2018, 3:09 PM
Brecht Van Lommel (brecht) changed the task status from Unknown Status to Unknown Status.May 23 2019, 2:57 AM
Brecht Van Lommel (brecht) claimed this task.
Brecht Van Lommel (brecht) added a subscriber: Brecht Van Lommel (brecht).

We no longer support the Intel(R) HD Graphics 2500.
https://code.blender.org/2019/04/supported-gpus-in-blender-2-80/

However there is a good chance this was fixed in the meantime anyway.

Clément Foucault (fclem) edited projects, added EEVEE & Viewport; removed Eevee, GPU / Viewport.Jun 19 2020, 11:11 PM