Maniphest T61860

FBX Exporter: vertices exported in incorrect position causing mesh deformation
Confirmed, NormalBUG
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Authored By
Tsuna Hiiragi (Tsuna)
Feb 22 2019, 10:34 PM
Tags
  • Add-ons (BF-Blender)
  • Import/Export
Subscribers
Adrian Bugnar (goayakla)
Bastien Montagne (mont29)
Richard Antalik (ISS)
Sebastian Parborg (zeddb)
Tsuna Hiiragi (Tsuna)

Description

System Information
Operating system: Windows 10 x64
Graphics card: RTX 2070

Blender Version
Broken: 2.79, 2.8

Short description of error
When skinned meshes are exported with FBX 7.4 binary the position of vertices does not export correctly.
As a result meshes are deformed (visible but not extreme in most cases) after export.

Note that external tools/software may be required to compare the meshes as the bug may be invisible upon re-import to blender.
A good way to see the differences is to use the mesh wireframe in iso view in blender versus unity for example.

Comparison of before and after in sample case (Click to load gif)

Exact steps for others to reproduce the error

  1. Load the attached blend file.

testcase.blend224 KBDownload

  1. Export to FBX using 7.4 binary
  2. Compare the position of vertices before and after export.

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Event Timeline

Tsuna Hiiragi (Tsuna) created this task.Feb 22 2019, 10:34 PM
Tsuna Hiiragi (Tsuna) updated the task description.
Tsuna Hiiragi (Tsuna) updated the task description.
Tsuna Hiiragi (Tsuna) updated the task description.Feb 22 2019, 10:38 PM
Tsuna Hiiragi (Tsuna) updated the task description.
Tsuna Hiiragi (Tsuna) updated the task description.Feb 22 2019, 10:41 PM
Tsuna Hiiragi (Tsuna) updated the task description.
Adrian Bugnar (goayakla) added a subscriber: Adrian Bugnar (goayakla).Mar 6 2019, 3:40 PM
Sebastian Parborg (zeddb) lowered the priority of this task from 90 to 30.Mar 7 2019, 12:58 PM
Sebastian Parborg (zeddb) added a subscriber: Sebastian Parborg (zeddb).

I can't reproduce this on re-import into blender.

If blender imports the generated file, that means that at least to blender, the positions does not change.
There is not much we can do with simply "it doesn't import correctly in other program".

Tsuna Hiiragi (Tsuna) added a comment.EditedMar 9 2019, 9:35 PM

It may be difficult to see in blender on its own but this is a significant issue as you can not trust blenders export.
This means that the model is deformed in unity, unreal etc when it has been exported from blender (and only from blender).

It's a big deal when any kind of precision is needed.

Sebastian Parborg (zeddb) raised the priority of this task from 30 to 90.Mar 11 2019, 11:47 AM
Sebastian Parborg (zeddb) added a subscriber: Bastien Montagne (mont29).

@Bastien Montagne (mont29) can you reproduce this?

Bastien Montagne (mont29) lowered the priority of this task from 90 to Normal.Mar 12 2019, 10:25 AM

No, cannot reproduce, but I don’t have access to Unity or UE currently.

Re-importing into Blender works as expected, so geometry itself is definitively not altered, issue likely comes from the rigging (binding matrices and all that). Although I would still find it odd that this shows in some other app but not in Blender. FBX works in mysterious ways… :(

Tsuna Hiiragi (Tsuna) added a comment.EditedAug 6 2019, 2:52 PM

{F7651610}So I found a semi viable workaround which is to set pose to rest position until the issue was small enough. This can take anywhere between 1 to 30 attempts. However due to some changes in 2.8 this is not possible anymore.
The mesh always exports in the exact same state. However the incorrect positioning of the verts is more major in 2.8

See attached a testcase for 2.8

Philipp Oeser (lichtwerk) edited projects, added Add-ons (Community); removed BF Blender.Sep 13 2019, 2:21 PM
Dalai Felinto (dfelinto) added a project: Tracker Curfew.Dec 23 2019, 4:35 PM
Richard Antalik (ISS) changed the task status from Confirmed to Needs Information from User.Feb 15 2020, 3:14 AM
Richard Antalik (ISS) added a subscriber: Richard Antalik (ISS).

I have re-triaged this report and can not reproduce it.
Can you please check if this is still an issue in latest build?
https://builder.blender.org/download/

Bastien Montagne (mont29) edited projects, added Python API; removed Tracker Curfew.Feb 17 2020, 5:13 PM
Tsuna Hiiragi (Tsuna) added a comment.Feb 17 2020, 5:33 PM

@Richard Antalik (ISS) Tested with 2.83 Alpha .
Able to reproduce the issue.
For safety i also tried entering pose mode and applying pose to rest.
Same result as previously.

Verified in 3dsMax 2020, Unity 2019.2.4 and Unity 2017.4.28<
The incorrect deformation is identical in all 3 instances.

Richard Antalik (ISS) changed the task status from Needs Information from User to Confirmed.Feb 18 2020, 9:38 AM
Bastien Montagne (mont29) mentioned this in T68575: FBX Known issues & TODO's.May 27 2020, 12:01 PM
Bastien Montagne (mont29) changed the subtype of this task from "Report" to "Bug".
Campbell Barton (campbellbarton) moved this task from Backlog to Under Discussion on the Python API board.Jun 18 2020, 3:14 PM
Campbell Barton (campbellbarton) removed a project: Python API.Jun 18 2020, 3:53 PM
Bastien Montagne (mont29) edited projects, added Add-ons (BF-Blender), Import/Export; removed Add-ons (Community).Jul 28 2020, 11:03 AM
Bastien Montagne (mont29) moved this task from Backlog to Long Term on the Add-ons (BF-Blender) board.Jul 28 2020, 11:08 AM